Posts by The Fall Guy

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My search for religion.

by joe134cd in

since leaving the jws i have become more interested in finding out about other faiths.

here are a few of my findings.. lds: i just couldnt get my head around the mental gymnastics i would have to do to understand their doctrines and theology.

i attended their services twice.

The Fall Guy

I stumbled across a debate on YouTube yesterday, the topic being: "Is the Catholic church a force for good in the world?"

The Catholic Church makes the same claim that J.W.'s do - "We are the only true religion & directed by God."

Listen as both of the speakers who are against the motion, put the Catholic Church's "unsavoury" history under the spotlight.

The Catholic "defenders" in the video were like pea-shooters against sledge-hammers.

Not good viewing for faint-hearted Catholics.

Christopher Hitchens - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgaV-3epSEU

Stephen Fry - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G4QoEhFPTI&t=8s

Complete video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBSH2oWVGEs&t=2825s

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I got back from the memorial . . .

by neat blue dog in

it was pretty mundane for the most part, same songs, same outline.

the only new thing they added was the video at the end, where stephen lett speaks to the visitors and commends them for coming and recommends they go to jwdotorg and also start a bible study.

they also showed a bar graph with figures increasing every year for jws, memorial attendance and memorial partakers.

Gruesome details in last night's memorial talk

by purrpurr in

last night's memorial talk in my cong went into graphic gruesome details about the torture of jesus and how the stake killed people.

i mean medical level graphic description!

step by step details of each injury and how it killed!

The Fall Guy

An M.S. in a previous congregation gave a similar description with his Instruction Talk in the Ministry School about 15 years. It was downright stomach-churning!

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boyfriend ex jehovah witness please help

by whatisthis12 in

so i posted yesterday.

my boyfriend and i have been living together for a year, and he went to the memorial tonight (sorry if that’s not what it’s called).

i told him i was upset he didn’t invite me but wasn’t going to tell him not to go because he hasn’t talked to his family for over a year.

Best advice; as long as he wants to remain a JW, you will not be considered a long-term prospect if you don't agree to joining his cult. Seriously consider planning your future without him now - because you will not be part of his!

Find someone who's not cult-indoctrinated.

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I got back from the memorial . . .

by neat blue dog in

it was pretty mundane for the most part, same songs, same outline.

the only new thing they added was the video at the end, where stephen lett speaks to the visitors and commends them for coming and recommends they go to jwdotorg and also start a bible study.

they also showed a bar graph with figures increasing every year for jws, memorial attendance and memorial partakers.

The Fall Guy

I won't spoil the story!

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July 2018 WT points

by The Fall Guy in

page 16, par.

18 carefully follow the latest directions.. do we faithfully follow the latest directions that jehovah has given us?

if so, we will not rely on always doing things the way we have done them in the past.

The Fall Guy

Berrygerry - the female in the WT illustration is dressed like an Amish compared to an elder's wife in my last congregation.

She was about 32 years old, had the looks and figure of a top model - and she knew it. In warm/hot weather, she'd wear clothing which looked as if it had been painted on - with as little paint as possible.

Likewise, our P.O./CoBE's wife took great delight in wearing very low cut tops in order to exhibit her large cleavage. Elder's wives are a law unto themselves.

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Feeling pressure to attend the Memorial?

by Fay Dehr in

feeling pressure to attend the memorial?.

as a former elder i write this response to hopefully help those genuinely feeling “guilt” before their god.

if you are a jehovah’s witness or an “ex-jw” (for example, disfellowshipped or lapsed), then i hope that this will be of help to you.

The Fall Guy

Fay Dehr - May your well-thought out words resonate with many ex/JW's whose minds are in turmoil at this time of year.

Especially, they should meditate and reason on this passage - "I hope that no one feels obligated to attend a public event when “your Father who looks on in secret” has not asked you to attend."

Then they can ask themselves, "Where in the Bible were non-anointed individuals instructed to attend as voyeurs, the memorial of Christ's death?"

Answer: nowhere. It's a solemn ritual exclusively to be attended by partakers who are members of the New Covenant. Spectators were not to be invited.

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July 2018 WT points

by The Fall Guy in

page 16, par.

18 carefully follow the latest directions.. do we faithfully follow the latest directions that jehovah has given us?

if so, we will not rely on always doing things the way we have done them in the past.

The Fall Guy

".....we will not rely on always doing things the way we have done them in the past. .....we will be quick to follow any new direction that Jehovah provides through his organization."

Does anyone else perceive a potential "new organizational arrangement" seed being planted in JW minds here - perhaps to be unveiled at the Annual Meeting?

If so, it's odds-on that it will be cash oriented.

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July 2018 WT points

by The Fall Guy in

page 16, par.

18 carefully follow the latest directions.. do we faithfully follow the latest directions that jehovah has given us?

if so, we will not rely on always doing things the way we have done them in the past.

The Fall Guy

Page 16, par. 18 Carefully follow the latest directions.

Do we faithfully follow the latest directions that Jehovah has given us? If so, we will not rely on always doing things the way we have done them in the past. Rather, we will be quick to follow any new direction that Jehovah provides through his organization.

Page 21, par. 19 Never should we forget that Jehovah requires wholehearted obedience and exclusive devotion.

Page 24 – An illustration to show that playing an “air guitar” is not a good way to show you are a JW.

PAGE 25 – An illustration showing a floozie wearing an immodest dress at the KH. Probably an Elder's wife!

Questions from Readers (at HQ!)

If an unmarried couple spend the night together under improper circumstances, would that constitute a sin meriting judicial action? YES!

Two witnesses not required????????????????

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Make the Truth Your Own

by neat blue dog in

this is something that hit me just relatively recently.. the phrase "make the truth your own" is a very famous catch phrase in jw culture.

it was a pet philosophy of daniel sydlik and has been used and is used in talks, literature and song.

every witness knows this trope.

The Fall Guy

Yes Bobcat, JW dogma categorically teaches that a person's own death wipes out all the evil they've ever done. Adolf, you've got nothing to worry about!

(Acts 4:12) ".....there is no salvation in anyone else, (especially not yourself!) for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”